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SWilliams
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OK the 1641 has been showing signs of difficulty so I pulled it out of service and tore the engine down.
Most of it looks good, the ACR was sticking and the valve stem seals were shot which meant carbon build up. Cleaned it up well and checked it over.
Decided that a new set of rings was the only item I needed that I didn't have. BUT, I cannot find JUST a set of rings.
The parts book number for the rings was superseded to a piston W/rings. Online I have found a couple numbers that might be the rings but no picture and the description is useless.

So does anyone have a good source for a set of rings? Or at least an actual part number for just the rings?

The engine is a 1995 B&S 16 HP Vanguard
Model 303447 Type 1147A1 Code 95020811

Owner of an 1863, 2263 (1863 W 22hp engine!) 2084 and a 2 - 2284s.

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BigMike
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Steve,I bought a set of Perfect Circle rings through NAPA,they were for a Kohler but it might be worth a shot.The only other thing I can think would be to call Total Seal.

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Steve

Ill see if I can get a hold of some friends of mine that pull. All they use is Vanguards. They should be able to help you. If I get a hold of them Ill PM you the info.

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You might also check with a Briggs dealer.

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Todd

I had the parts girl look them up. Seems that you can only get the rings in a piston and ring set. You would thin with all the little springs, gasets, ect that briggs maes you buy they would sell just the rings. Retail it was 86.00 a cylinder.

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What is the Briggs engine model number? I can see if we can get them at NAPA if I have that.

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Model 303447 Type 1147A1 Code 95020811

Steve told me he found a set of NOS ones on epay. It still would be nice to know if you could get them after market. My buddy that uses Vangaurds to pul never got back to me. See hes young and in love, kinda like Dick er son.

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Like Vince says I have got a pair coming (if the mailman can find me)
What I really found strange is that I can get complete rebuild kits for most of the B&S singles, Kohler singles and even old oddball engines like Tec*mseh, But for a more modern twin nobody seems to have them. Maybe they are trying to tell me that I need to get rid of the antiques.......

Oh well if I get POed again I plan on just buying a NEW 18-20 hp and re-powering the beast. I will say that I HATE the engine bolts on these tractors. Maybe the secret is to remove the entire engine mounting plate???

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[quote="S Maybe the secret is to remove the entire engine mounting plate???[/quote]

YUP !!

My mind wants a Divorce ?? .

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Unbolt the plate from the frame then set it on the bench or up on the front corner of the frame to remove the engine bolts.

I left work and am on vacation for a week. I tried to use the online catalog and it looks like std rings are available. Double check that the bore size is 2.678" if so the NAPA part number is 7-03537.

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Steve

Like Todd said 3 bolts per side and its out, except for the round thingy thats around the fly wheel and the 4 bolts that hold the drive shaft in place, and the cables, and the wiring, and dont forget a half a coffee can of bolts out of the eng tin.

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The last time I pulled it I didn't really look close. Just took out the 4 engine bolts. Came out fine (drive-shaft slides right out easy). Putting it back in was a bit more fun, with the two bolts sticking up you have to tilt the engine forward, line up the drive shaft, line up the two engine bolts and twist the drive shaft to line it up... Ran out of hands....

When I looked it over I thought a couple things.
1- Why didn't they use nuts welded to the plate and shorter bolts?
2- There has to be an easier way with the factory hardware.
3 - I wonder how much money a few sheep sell for....

Well got the new rings. NOS and all installed. Now to finish it up and get the other beast together. Then I get to rewire a 154 Lo-Boy The original regulator is gone and I plan on using a newer one.

Owner of an 1863, 2263 (1863 W 22hp engine!) 2084 and a 2 - 2284s.

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How do you check piston rings? ›

Performing a compression test helps in identifying the damaged engine's piston rings. While the high compression levels indicate the presence of damaged valve seals, low compression levels indicate worn piston rings.

Does MTD make Cub Cadet? ›

In 1981, due to financial hardships, IH sold the Cub Cadet division to the MTD corporation, which took over production and use of the Cub Cadet brand name (without the IH symbol).

How to tell if bad piston rings or valve seals? ›

The final indicator of a poor valve seal is a lack of acceleration power. You can also perform a compression test to see if this is the case. A higher level of compression will indicate that it's a valve seal problem, while a low level of compression will indicate a piston ring problem.

How to test piston rings without head? ›

With the head off, turn the crankshaft until all the pistons are halfway up the cylinder bores,then pour diesel or paraffin on top of each piston until each cylinder is full. Check the time,walk away and come back in an hour.

How to tell if pistons are bad? ›

The Symptoms of Piston Damage

One of the most common signs of a faulty piston is white or grey smoke coming out of the exhaust. This is usually caused by burning oil in the combustion chamber. Other notable symptoms include reduced engine performance and low power for acceleration.

How much does it cost to get piston rings replaced? ›

Piston ring replacement costs vary, with prices ranging from $1,800 to $3,500. How much your replacements cost would depend on your vehicle's model and engine type. While new piston rings aren't expensive, labor costs can drain your wallet.

What happens if I drive with bad piston rings? ›

Driving with bad piston rings comes with a number of risks. Not only can it cause further damage to your engine. But it can also affect your car's performance and fuel economy. Bad piston rings can allow oil to leak into the combustion chamber, leading to increased emissions and higher fuel consumption.

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